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happinessisawarmgun 14 ( +1 | -1 )
Fritz... ...guys , can all you fritz users give me some pros n cons of this program . Is is worth me getting it to help me improve ? tnx in advance.
odonata 36 ( +1 | -1 )
RE Fritz is rather a good program for training or analysis (after your games off course) for the stronger clubplayer, but for the improving player who still has a lot to learn about tactics etc. it won't do I think. I think a program like f.i. chessmaster 10 is better in that case, there's a whole module on openings, endgames, tactics with explanation. A school if you like..
drdesoto 163 ( +1 | -1 )
Just read this a few days ago ... -> www.chessninja.com

"Jen Shahade: Fritz Control

When Adams lost to Hydra 5.5-.5, one of the things that upset me the most was some of the commentary on the ICC. Hydra's brilliant combination at the end of the second game was not unveiled gradually in a dramatic way, but instantly cited by computer programs. This practice has always bothered me and my brother [IM Greg Shahade], who went as far as to instate a no-computer analysis rule on ICC coverage of the New York Masters.

If someone wants to use computers to analyze top level live games, that's fine, but why not be courteous? Some people might enjoy the drama of not knowing exactly when Kramnik is up 4.37 pawns and Leko should resign. Others might even want to train their own tactics rather than have Fritz force-feed them variations.

It's always a complex question for me when I'm analyzing a game or an opening: When to turn on Fritz? I'm tempted right away, but as soon as the engine purrs, I stop thinking and my eyes glaze over... mesmerized by the crunching of numbers on the bottom left corner of my screen. A frequent problem is that Fritz will often choose a weird move as the main variation while a normal-looking, but losing, move doesn't even show up on the screen. What this means for me is if I overuse Fritz in analyzing, I'll misunderstand the logic of a game. Much of using Fritz well is knowing when to turn it off. (or ignore it)."

Best,

drdesoto
wschmidt 159 ( +1 | -1 )
happi, odonata makes some good points. Chessmaster is generally a much more user-friendly program and has a lot of tutorials that are very good for novice/intermediate players. And, for players at our level, the quality of CM's analysis of completed games is quite satisfactory. (Perhaps Fritz is the stronger analyzer in the end, but I'll never plumb those depths!) Finally, the learning curve to figure out how to get Fritz to do the things you want it to do is much steeper than Chessmaster.

That said, once you do get up that learning curve with Fritz, there are definitely things about its presentation that make it attractive. Playing through the variations of its analysis of one's games is a breeze. (I always wished I could slow down CM's auto-replay feature or move it forward at my own pace rather than have to pause the replay every time.) The database features, once you figure them out, are great and seamlessly integrated into the package. And the connection to Playchess.com is very slick.

I read something just last night about Chessbase wanting to make Fritz more user friendly in its next incarnation. They're beginning to recognize they have the high-level users and they're aiming to broaden their base. That would be great. Both programs are pretty cheap for what you get. If you can wait, I'd say get CM now and the next edition of Fritz when it comes out. You'd have the best of both worlds.

If you do go with Fritz and run into questions, please post them here. I've had lots of assistance from friendly GK users. ws
happinessisawarmgun 17 ( +1 | -1 )
thanks guys... ws...what version of cm do you us? I have read some reviews of version 10 and a lot of people say the cd will not work in their pc . I dont really want to buy version 9000. tnx again.
chuckventimiglia 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Look at the box that.... the CD comes in and it will tell you what
the operating system that it will run on.
Maybe your friend has an older machine and the
new Chessmaster is not compatible.

You should also take a look at Fritz 7. It
is selling at $24.95 and you can buy it
from Chessbase. Fritz 8 is their latest version
so the Fritz 7 is basically half price.

Chessmaster is a good program but in my
opinion the chessbase products are better.

Chuck